From: Edgar Foster (questioning1@yahoo.com)
Date: Wed Apr 15 1998 - 17:47:48 EDT
There is a good discussion in BAGD regarding OINOS. According to this
reference work, OINOS "normally" refers to the fermented juice of the
grape. Notice p. 562.
Sincerely,
E. Foster
L-R College
---Vincent Broman wrote:
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> cwconrad@artsci.wustl.edu wrote:
> > Latin has a
> > distinct word, MUSTUM, for the newly-pressed juice of the grapes
before it
> > is processed and boiled down.
>
> If Greek does not make the same distinction of UINUM vs. MUSTUM, then
> it would appear the OINOS would refer to both fermented and
unfermented
> grape drinks. How would the two cases be distinguished?
> Does OINOS NEOS refer to newly pressed juice or to newly fermented
wine?
>
> > the peril of
> > intoxication was well-understood
>
> I seem to remember from Durant's history that the Spartans would
sometimes
> get a slave drunk and ridicule his condition in front of some young
people
> in order to impress on them the shameful effects of drunkenness.
>
> > the intoxicating effect of wine-drinking
> > was generally considered a blessing and indeed a divinely-given one.
>
> It seems to me that there must have been many circumstances where
> a person was thirsty in hot weather, but still wanted to keep a
clear head,
> perhaps in preparation for weighty negotiations, public speaking,
athletics,
> or dangerous activities like hunting, horse-breaking, or war.
> Water was not popular for drinking. What did a designated driver
drink?
> I seem to remember someone saying that OCUS was the gatorade of the
1st
> century. Did Greek-speakers generally think that OINOS wasn't ready
to
> drink until it turned to wine or vinegar?
>
>
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