From: Paul F. Evans (evans@wilmington.net)
Date: Thu Nov 12 1998 - 06:50:42 EST
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>List,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Still working through 1 Cor 12.</FONT></DIV>
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<P>KAI GAR EN ENI PNEUMATI HMEIS PANTEV EIS EN SWMA EBAPTISQHMEN EITE JIOUDAIOI
EITE ELLHNEV EITE DOULOI EITE ELEUQEROI...</P>
<P>...KAI PANTES hEN PNEUMA EPOTISQHMEN. </P>
<P></FONT>...even as we all drank the one Spirit. </P></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>In verse 13 the last portion of the verse, is translated in
the KJV as "made to drink...." This some what deflects the main
emphasis in the idea Paul seeks to communicate; they all have a common
experience of the Spirit. Is it as accurate to say, "We all drank the
one Spirit"? </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Here are my problems in understanding the
text. The <FONT color=#000000>preceding </FONT>list overshadows the
following statement and contrasts with the one Spirit. To over do the
passive in English forces attention from the main idea of the entire pericope
and jars one look for who is acting upon us instead of the direction of the
action which seems to be the point. Also, the idea of drinking into the
Spirit, is not what Paul means at all is it? Doesn't he mean that the
Spirit is what is drunk! He is the object of the verb, right? How much
force is given to the passive when rendering it into English? Should it
enjoy a stronger recognition? In other words is there truly an emphasis on
the idea of being acted upon? I think that Paul is trying to make the
point that all have a similar experience of the one Spirit, and that the passive
is a necessary way to express the idea, but may not be the main point. To
say "made to drink..." shifts the emphasis (maybe) so how to my mind!
(not that I have one)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Someone comment on the KAI please! Is this a sort of
"even as" type of thing, or is it something else?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Now that I have muddied the waters so much, I'll
step out and let it settle.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Thanks!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Rev. Paul F. Evans<BR>Wilmington First
Pentecostal Holiness Church<BR>Wilmington, NC</FONT> </DIV>
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