Re: Hebrews 11:1

From: Moon-Ryul Jung (moon@saint.soongsil.ac.kr)
Date: Wed May 05 1999 - 12:29:52 EDT


On 05/05/99, ""Carl W. Conrad" <cwconrad@artsci.wustl.edu>" wrote:
>

> I don't think the absence of an article makes a "substantive" difference
> here, but it does leave open the possibility that the participles
> ELPIZOMENWN and OU BLEPOMENWN should be understood as predicative rather
> than attributive. I don't really think this has a signficant bearing on the
> fundamental sense of the proposition, but observe how seeing the
> participles as predicative slightly alters how the whole is perceived (or
> how I, at any rate, perceive it)--my paraphrase: "Faith is the basis of
> happenings while we are anticipating them, the touchstone of happenings
> when we do not see them."

It seems that three grammatical approaches are suggested for interpreting
the participles in Heb 11.1.
1) predicates (Carl)
2) attributive (Jim): "Faith is substantive hopefulness and conviction
without aid of sight".
3) the genitives of substantives (Kevin):
 "Now faith is of
>things hoped for a confident assurance, a conviction of things not seen".

To some people including me, the options 1) and 2) might be quite
surprising.

If 2) is right, why are the participles in the genitive case? I would
expect
them in the nominative case.
If they were used as predicates, I would guess,
they are supposed to describe something
about PRAGMATWN (genitive), because the participles are also
in the genitive case, not about "us".

But I know that my questions might have been raised because of my
ignorance
about the usage of the genitive case of participles.

Respectfully
Moon-ryul Jung
Assistant Professor
Dept of Computer Science
Soongsil University
Seoul, Korea
 
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