From: Edgar M. Krentz (emkrentz@mcs.com)
Date: Mon Jul 12 1999 - 10:22:07 EDT
This is a very interesting thread. I wonder, however, whether some of these
statistics might not be deceptive. I think that it should be restricted to
the indicative mood. For example, one would get a preponderance of aorist
infinitive forms of LAMBANW over present and perfect infinitives, simply
because that is the infinitive form of preference.
At the lease, Daniel, I would be interested in knowing the statistics for
the different moods. The rarity of any perfect infinitives would skew the
interpretation, IMHO. ;-)
Ed Krentz
>At 9:52 AM +0200 7/10/99, Daniel Ria–o wrote:
>>Carl W. Conrad Wrote:
>>
>>>>(1) I do believe (but am not prepared at present to document) that the
>>>>ratio of perfects/aorists is indeed considerably higher in classical
>>>>narrative Greek than it is in Koine. Probably this is something that
>>>>HAS been documented, but I can't put my hands on it now.
>>
>> It has. A very good place to look for data, sound explanations and
>>bibliography is Duhoux, Yves. "Le verbe grec ancien. ƒlŽments de
>>morphologie et de syntaxe historiques." Louvain-la-Neuve, 1992. In chapter
>>9 (pp. 497) you can find the donŽes statistiques:
>>
>> Aor. Perf./Pl.Perf.
>> --------------------------------------------
>>Ilias 5334 86.27% 849 13.73%
>>Odyssea 3944 84.89% 702 15.11%
>>Herodotus. 4900 81.31% 1126 18.69%
>>Thucydides 4054 89.12% 495 10.88%
>>Att. Aut. 398 70.19% 169 29.81%
>>
>> 1. data from Il., Od. Th. comes from Schlachter, L. "Statistische
>>Untersuchungen Ÿber den Gebrauch der Tempora und Modi bei einzelnen
>>griechischen Schrifstellern (I-III)." *IF* 22, 23, 24 (1907-1908,
>>1908-1909, 1909): 202-242, 165-204, 189-221.
>> 2. *Att. Aut.* stands for a choix d' auteurs attiques (from V-IV
>>centuries a.C.) and the collection of data for this selections comes from
>>Chanet, A.M. "A propos du verbe grec. Questions de frŽcuence (attique
>>classique)." *Cratyle* 9 (1984): 1-15.
>
>My heartfelt thanks to Daniel for sharing this information. It is important
>for documenting the changes taking place over the course of time in the
>usage of the tenses. It strikes me that another kind of investigation that
>would promote this end is documenting which aorists in the GNT serve the
>function of a pluperfect by indicating time prior to that of the main
>clause; this is not unrelated, I'm sure, to the usage of the aorist
>circumstantial participle to indicate time prior to that of a main verb.
>
>
>Carl W. Conrad
>Department of Classics, Washington University
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