Re: GENOITO!

From: Carl W. Conrad (cwconrad@artsci.wustl.edu)
Date: Wed Dec 15 1999 - 19:43:01 EST

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I rise at this point not to quibble with Edward; I think "I hope that I
..." is a pretty neat solution. I only wanted to add that my immediate
inclination on looking at the text was a pseudo-Yiddish: "I should be so
lucky as to rise in them ..."

At 4:52 PM -0500 12/15/99, Edward Hobbs wrote:
>Bart Ehrman asks: --------------->>>>>>>>>
>
> Ignatius goes on a tear with GENOITO MOI in Ephesians 11f (3x). It's
>normally translated something like "may it be to me that ..." or "may I
>be" (optative of wish). What do you think of "I hope that I," or
>something comparable? E.g., translating
>
> "In him I am bearing my chains, which are spiritual pearls, EN hOIS
>GENOITO MOI ANASTHNAI TH PROSEUXH hUMWN" as "In him I am bearing my
>chains, which are spiritual pearls. In them I hope to rise again through
>your prayers..."
>
> Too weak? Wrong idea? Unnuanced? Perfect in every way?
>
>-- Bart Ehrman
> University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
>
><<<<------------
>
>
>I've wrestled with this "last-leaf-on-the-tree" optative for decades, and
>my answer to Bart's question is:
>
> "Perfect in every way."
>
>His solution in Ignatius, "I hope to..." is stylish, and really RIGHT, I
>think.
>
>I'm really beginning to look forward to Bart's replacement for Kirsopp
>Lake's venerable Loeb "Apostolic Fathers".
>
>
>Edward Hobbs
>Wellesley College
>
>
>
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