From: Steven Lo Vullo (doulos@chorus.net)
Date: Sun Mar 19 2000 - 18:28:32 EST
<x-charset iso-8859-1>Carl,
Even so, Jim West described AGAPAW and its derivatives as a love "which
requires and expects nothing in return." Surely you would agree that texts
such as John 3:19, 12:43, 2 Timothy 4:10, and 1 John 2:15, even with the
heaviest hand, could not be pressed into this mold!
Steve LoVullo
Madison, WI
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From: Carl W. Conrad <cwconrad@artsci.wustl.edu>
To: Biblical Greek <b-greek@franklin.oit.unc.edu>
Cc: Biblical Greek <b-greek@franklin.oit.unc.edu>
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2000 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: A question from a novice!
> At 2:15 PM -0500 3/19/00, Mike Sangrey wrote:
> >On the one hand, it is usually prudent to be as precise as we can; so to
say
> >"ALWAYS in the sense of self giving love" is perhaps too strong. And
yet, in
> >the context of the NT, it would be very hard to separate the two ideas of
> >'self giving' and 'high regard' in any given occurrence.
>
> Particularly as Alexander Kyrychenko has just called attention to:
>
> 'DHMAS GAR ME EGKATELIPEN AGAPHSAS TON NUN AIWNA (2Tim 4:10)
>
> 'This is neither LXX nor "self giving love which requires and expects
> nothing in return."'
>
> Unless, of course, one really wants to be heavy-handedly ironic, and claim
> that Demas' love 'this present age' is something for which he sacrificed
> himself.
>
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