From: Carl W. Conrad (cwconrad@artsci.wustl.edu)
Date: Sun Dec 31 2000 - 07:44:11 EST
At 12:47 PM -0800 12/30/00, clayton stirling bartholomew wrote:
>on 12/30/00 10:37 AM, Carlton Winbery wrote:
>
>> In the case of Luke 9:46, it is in apposition
>> (Nominative case) to DIALOGISMOS. In Luke 22:23 it is the object of
>> SUZHTEIN and in Luke 1:62 the object of ENENEUON. General ideas or thoughts
>> are often dealt with as neuter gender.
>
>Thanks Carlton,
>
>This answers my question. So the lack of agreement in gender between TO and
>DIALOGISMOS does not present a problem. I think this is the point that some
>of us were stumbling over.
Yes, I think this is a not-uncommon apposition of a neuter expression to a
word, particularly one expressive of an IDEA or, as Mike Sangrey was
saying, the substance of the argument (not the idea of the whole paragraph
so much, but the essence or core of what the DIALOGISMOS actually was). I
think this is another of those tendencies of Hellenistic Greek: use of the
article to substantivize other units of speech, even whole clauses.
Aristotle does this so much that it drives his readers up the walls trying
to figure out what the antecedents of his neuter pronouns such as TOUTO or
TODE or TAUTA are supposed to be.
A not un-similar usage is that in Eph 2:8 THi GAR CARITI ESTE SESWiSMENOI
DIA PISTEWS: KAI TOUTO OUK EX hUMWN, QEOU TO DWRON, where (as I see it,
anyhow) the TOUTO refers back to the whole clause THi GAR CARITI ... DIA
PISTEWS, and NOT (as some want to argue) to one particular noun in that
clause such as CARITI or PISTEWS. Latin does something very similar in a
not altogether similar fashion by putting a QUOD in front of a clause and
then using the clause as a noun clause in a larger argumentative structure;
the QUOD will be translated in such a construction as "the fact that ..."
or "that ..." or "as to the fact that ...". I think that hINA + subjunctive
clauses may often function as such noun clauses also in Koine Greek (and
they are at least as often substantival clauses as they are clauses of
purpose or result).
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