From: myron kauk (myronkauk@integrityonline30.com)
Date: Wed Jan 10 2001 - 12:07:26 EST
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Robert wrote</FONT></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="mso-bidi-font-size: 18.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US">> In James 4,5
there exists expression PROS FQONON that is translated in polish Bible as
adverb: jealously, enviously. Doesn’t exist in Greek > one Adverb for it?
Which meaning such construction has?<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns =
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<H1><FONT size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal">James 4:5 is
notoriously difficult to translate. Is TO PNEUMA the subject or the
object of the verb? Does it refer to the Holy Spirit or to the human
spirit. Notice the difference between these English
translations.</SPAN></FONT></H1>
<H1><FONT size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal">
<P align=left>NAS Or do you think that the Scripture speaks to no purpose:
"He jealously desires the Spirit which He has made to dwell in us"?</P>
<P align=left>NIV Or do you think Scripture says without reason that the
spirit he caused to live in us envies intensely?</P></SPAN></FONT></H1>
<H1><FONT size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal">The phrase PROS
FQONON is literally something like "with/unto jealousy/envy" and is
probably best understood adverbially, modifying EPIPOQEI.</SPAN></FONT></H1>
<H1><FONT size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> Similar
expression exists in 1John 5,16 hAMARTIAN<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>MH PROS QANATON.<FONT size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US"> Is this expression the same kind like in
James 4,5 or it is</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT></H1>
<H1><FONT size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><FONT size=2><SPAN
lang=EN-US style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US"></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT><FONT
size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><FONT size=2><SPAN
lang=EN-US style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US">> something else?</SPAN></FONT>
How one should translate the statement from 1John 5,16? I found 2 different
proposals: Mortal sin and sin leading to the</SPAN></FONT></H1>
<H1><FONT size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal"></SPAN></FONT><FONT size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal">> death.</SPAN></FONT></H1>
<H1><FONT size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal">In 1 John 5:16 the
phrase PROS QANATON occurs three times. The last occurrence clearly
modifies hAMARTIA, a noun. The second modifies the participle
hAMARTANOUSIN and the first could be taken to modify the participle hAMARTONONTA
or the cognate accusative hAMARTIAN. Since the noun contains a verbal idea
I would argue that all of these again are in a sense adverbial, thus
translations such as "sinning unto death," "a sin leading to death," "a deadly
sin."</SPAN></FONT></H1>
<H1><FONT size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal">Westcott notes
that in rabbinic literature the phrase "sin unto death" referred to a sin worthy
of captial punishment. He argues by extension that in the Christian
community it would refer to sins punishable by exclusion from the
community.</SPAN></FONT></H1>
<H1><FONT size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal">Smalley translates
"mortal sin" but then admits that this is anachronistic since the distinction
between "mortal" and "venial" sins is a development of later theology and not
discernible in the NT literature. He argues that the distinction in the OT
was between intentional and unintentional sins.</SPAN></FONT></H1>
<H1><FONT size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal">Marshall
understands it as sins incompatible with being a child of God and Bruce equates
this with apostasy.</SPAN></FONT></H1>
<H1><FONT size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal">Grace be with
you,</SPAN></FONT></H1>
<H1><FONT size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal">Myron C.
Kauk</SPAN></FONT></H1>
<H1><FONT size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><A
href="mailto:myronkauk@iolky.com">myronkauk@iolky.com</A></SPAN></FONT></H1>
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