From: One of the McKays (musicke@ozemail.com.au)
Date: Tue Jan 23 2001 - 18:41:04 EST
Greg said: [big snip]
... it is hard, if not reasonable impossible, to escape the conclusion
that God created through Christ.
Agreed. But in the 2 passages I cited we read:
PANTA DI AUTOU EGENETO, KAI CWRIS AUTOU EGENETO OUDE hEN. [John 1:3]
and in Colossians Paul gives us a comprehensive statement that all things
were created through Christ, ending with:
TA PANTA DI AUTOU KAI EIS AUTON EKTISTAI
So Christ is seen as the Creator, not a creation.
This is why I can't accept Rev 3:14 as saying that he was created.
I can never see the relevance of the verse about wisdom in Proverbs, or why
it featured so much in discussion about Christ. Off the top of my head, I
can't think of anything messianic in Proverbs.
When I dismissed the meaning "ruler of God's creation" in Rev 3:14, I had
forgotten Rev 1:5, I am ashamed to say, which does link closely with Rev
3:14. I now see why the translation "ruler" is found in some versions.
[Though of course in 1:5 it is ARCWN and in 3:14 it is ARCH]
David McKay
musicke@ozemail.com.au
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