From: Kevin W. Woodruff (cierpke@prodigy.net)
Date: Tue Jun 26 2001 - 16:47:28 EDT
Perhaps it is being contrast with the more famous later census that happened
in 6 A.D. (or 6 C.E.) as described by Josephus in Antiquities 18.1.6
Kevin
At 08:26 PM 6/26/2001 -0000, you wrote:
>
>Carl wrote:
>
>Personally, I agree that hAUTH hH APOGRAFH is most probably the original
>form of the subject; I think, however, that PRWTH is adverbial with EGENETO
>(and that the word-order PRWTH EGENETO is more probable) and that EGENETO
>does here mean "occurred/took place" (= Latin FACTUS EST), and finally that
>hHGEMONEUONTOS THS SURIAS KURHNIOU is a genitive absolute explaining PRWTH
>EGENETO: "This census first took place/was held when Quirinius was governor
>of Syria."
>
>To which Iver responded:
>
>But I still have a problem trying to make sense of the traditional
>translation. If we say "This census first took place" or "This census took
>place first" at a particular time what does that mean? Was it not finished
>and had to be repeated a second time? Is there any contrast with another
>census? If there is not contrast, the word order is wrong.
>
>My naive question:
>
>Does not hAUTH itself imply a constrast? hH would have been sufficient to
>reference the APOGRAFH of the previous verse. In fact, I would have
>understood hH as demonstrative anyway. Why the hAUTH?
>
>Mark Wilson
>
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