[b-greek] RE: OUKETI in Acts 20:25

From: Iver Larsen (iver_larsen@sil.org)
Date: Mon Dec 10 2001 - 15:33:44 EST


> I would like to raise a question about the rendering of OUKETI in
> passages such as Acts 20:25 KAI NUN IDOU EGW OIDA hOTI OUKETI
> OPSESTHE TO PROSWPON MOU hUMEIS PANTES EN OIS DIHLQON KHRUSSWN
> THN BASILEIAN.
> Most, but not all, recent translations have gone to something
> like "never again."
> My survey of the lexicons, classical and NT, indicates that the
> "never again" version of OUKETI is unsupported. It has its only
> advocate in the Arndt, Gingrich, etc. editions.
> I did not check out all the BDAG examples, but what I looked at
> were unconvincing. In fact, I am suspicious of a theological
> motive behind the definition, especially in reference to Acts 20:25.
> As I have looked at other examples of OUKETI it appeared to me to
> indicate the cessation of a prior state, without any necessary
> implication about how long that cessation would exist, and that
> "never again" is certainly too strong. Thus "no longer" or "no
> more" remain much better renderings.
> Any input?
> Frazier Conley
> Whitewright, Texas

I would agree that "never again" may be too strong. "You will not see me
again" seems to me an adequate translation. For the emphatic "never" I would
have expected either OUDEPOTE as in Mark 7:23 or Matt 26:33, or OUKETI OU MH
as in Mark 14:25.
On the other hand, there is not much difference in meaning between "You will
not see me again" and "you will never see me again". The renderings "no
longer" and "no more" would be unnatural in this context, since Paul is
clearly implying that this is the last time they will see him.

Iver Larsen


---
B-Greek home page: http://metalab.unc.edu/bgreek
You are currently subscribed to b-greek as: [jwrobie@mindspring.com]
To unsubscribe, forward this message to leave-b-greek-327Q@franklin.oit.unc.edu
To subscribe, send a message to subscribe-b-greek@franklin.oit.unc.edu




This archive was generated by hypermail 2.1.4 : Sat Apr 20 2002 - 15:37:14 EDT