[b-greek] Re: Luke 19:11 and grammatical marking

From: Carl W. Conrad (cwconrad@artsci.wustl.edu)
Date: Thu Apr 18 2002 - 17:19:09 EDT


At 5:03 PM -0400 4/18/02, Polycarp66@aol.com wrote:
>In a message dated 4/18/2002 4:11:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
>Clwinbery@aol.com writes:
>
>>> IEROUSALHM AUTON KAI DOKEIN AUTOUS hOTI PARAXRHMA MELLEI >> hH
>BASILEIA TOU QEOU ANAFAINESQAI
>
>>> What I'm really after is in the phrase:
>>> DIA TO EGGUS EINAI IEROUSALHM AUTON
>
>>> IEROUSALHM is indeclinable. But, if you were creating a database which
>>> required you to grammatically label it, with what case would you label
>>> it?
>
>> Mike, Accordance locates IEROUSALHM in this instance as genitive. According
> > to BAGD it is common to use EGGUS with the genitive for local functions.
> > BAGD also gives the dative as an option when EGGUS is local.
>___________________________
>
>Logos likewise indicates that IEROUSALHM is genitive. Since the form
>hIEROSOLUMA or IEROUSALHM is apparently not used in any case distinction, it
>is interesting that Logos/Accordance and BGAD state so confidently that it is
>genitive. There are a number of instances listed in both the LXX and the NT
>with dat. following. I'm wondering why the confidence that IEROUSALHM is
>gen. Any ideas?

Well, one good reason is that EGGUS, when it's a preposition, is in fact
more often used with genitive (the ablatival genitive, at that).
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Carl W. Conrad
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