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Ant population controls - FAQ suggestions



It appears I am building up an informal Ant FAQ.  Since we have
seen a lot of requests on ant control is seems reasonable to 
make this into a formal FAQ.  As I have never done this before
suggestions and comments would be extremely helpful.  Also, I am
not sure how to get his on the FAQ server for rec.gardens

I realize the phoenix specific information should be changed to a
general discussion on ant types.  Other comments/suggestions?  
Should this be a FAQ?

Thanks,
Heather.
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Living in Phoenix AZ we have a variety of differnt kind of ants.
The major ones around are:

red/black 		have single hills and are predominately sugar eaters
			they are typically the ones that farm aphids and 
			flies.
large red ants 		have very large anthills and have a tendency to 
			clear large areas around the anthill
large black		I think these eat mold that is grown off of plant 
			material carried down in the anthill.  Never found
			them to be obnoxious but like the large red ants they
			clear large areas around a large ant hill.
small black 		These are the worst.  They build a large mound with
			many entrances (kind of like an ant condo).  There 
			bite is also extremely painful to me.  

Anyways, I have dozens of anthills and have tried a variety of methods.

boiling water 		no effect

digging up the 
anthill			suggested by my dad.  He said did down in the
			anthill really far (avoid getting bitten) then
			put a jar filled with water in the hole and
			cover it up to the rim with soil.  The ants
			will be very upset (no kidding) and will be
			trying to find there hole and they will fall
			in the jar and drown.  It didn't work and
			luckily I didn't get bit.

cayenne pepper		the ants like to eat it!

specially ground 
diotomaceous earth 	some effect not sure why it worked 
			sometimes and not others.  Have to keep
			reapplying it.

boric acid 		no effect
			plant to try this method again this time mixing the
			boric acid with sugar.

ground up orange 
peels 			suggested on the local radio, no effect 
			(Although I have been told its the 
			molding of the orange peels that drive the 
			ants away.  Unfortunately, just doesn't mold 
			in Phoenix during the summer, just dehyrates :-)

Amdro Ant Bait		Works good in non-food production areas and
			protected from animals and children.  NOT
			ORGANIC! but also not a general purpose poison
			like diazanon.

chickens		While the eat bugs (especially cockroaches) they 
			seem to find ants to dry to eat.  However, they seem
			to like juciy beetles, maggots and worms.  Which is
			pretty nice.

repeated disturbing
of the anthill		people have posted that repeated disturbings of the
			anthill will convince the ants to move elsewhere.
			Personally, I would rather limit the population 
			rather than move them around on my property or 
			convince them to move to my neighbors.

-- 
------------------- Me speaking for me and only me ---------------------------
      Motorola MCG              AZ43 MD DW278        (o) 602-438-3343
      Realtime Networking       2900 S. Diablo Way   (f) 602-438-3836
      hlm@phx.mcd.mot.com       Tempe, AZ 85282


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From: klier@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.food.historic
Subject: Beans, beans for every meal...
Message-ID: <1993Jun15.191648.13790@iscsvax.uni.edu>
Date: 15 Jun 93 19:16:48 -0600
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The species of legumes listed below are from the USDA list of economically
important plants.  Common names and origin and remarks are largely from
>>Mabberly, D.J. 1990 [corrected edition].  The Plant-Book.  
Cambridge University Press, Cambridge.<<

A "?" by itself means I have no information, not necessarily that origins 
are unknown.

       --Kay


Scientific name	        Common name	                 Origin & remarks
-------------------     -------------------------------  --------------------
Apios americana	        potato bean, groundnut	         North America
Arachis hypogaea	peanut, groundnut, goober, mani	 S. America, maybe 
                                                         E Andes?
Bauhinia esculenta	marama	                         ?
Cajanus cajan	       pigeon pea, congo pea, dhal, red gram, ambrevade	
                                                         Africa? S. Asia?
Canavalia ensiformis	Jamaican horsebean, jackbean, 
                        horsebean, swordbean, 
                        sabre bean	                tropical Americas
Canavalia gladiata	swordbean	                old world
Canavalia plagiosperma	oblique-seeded jackbean	
Canavalia rosea	        beach bean	                pantropical
Castanospermum australe	Moreton bay chestnut, 
                        Australian chestnut	       NE Australia, New 
                                                       Caledonia, Vanuatu.  
                                                       Poisonous raw.
Ceratonia siliqua	carob, St. John's Bread	       Oman? Arabia & Somalia
Cicer arietinum 	chickpea, garabanzo, Bengal gram,
                        yellow gram, spanish pea       Turkey? 
                                                       (3rd lrgst pulse crop; 
                                                "salted provender" of Isaiah
Cordeauxia edulis	ye'eb, jeheb nut	       Somalia, Ethiopia; 
                                                       endangered species
Cyamopsis tetragonoloba	guar, clusterbean	       Africa & Arabia; 
                                                       cultigen
Dolichos biflorus = Vigna unguiculata subsp. cylindrica	
Dolichos lablab = Lablab purpureus		
Entada gigas	       sea bean, Mackeybean, nickerbean      tropical Africa
                                                         & Americas
Glycine max	       soybean	                        probably selected 
                                   N China 11th century BC; known to Europeans
                                   since 16th century AD; first cult. US 1924.
Glycyrrhiza glabra     licorice (as opposed to anise)	Mediterranean to 
                                                        central Asia
Inga edulis	       icecream bean	                tropical Americas
Inga vera	       guaba, guama	                tropical Americas
Inocarpus fagifer      Polynesian chestnut, Tahitian 
                       chestnut, O'taheite chestnut	Pacific
Lablab purpureus       hyacinth bean, lablab bean, 
                       bonavist bean	                probably tropical Africa
Lathyrus aphaca	       yellow pea	                Europe & Mediterranean 
                                                        to Afghanistan
Lathyrus hirsutus      rough pea, Caley pea	        ?
Lathyrus montanus	       [edible tubers]	        European
Lathyrus sativus       chickling pea, chickling vetch, 
                       dogtooth pea, grass pea, Indian pea, 
                       Riga pea, kheshari	        cultigen, Europe?
Lathyrus tuberosus	[edible tubers]                 E. Mediterranean
Lens culinaris	       lentil, masur, 	                E. Mediterranean to Iraq
Leucaena esculenta     guaje	                        Mexico
Leucaena leucocephala  leucaena, leadtree, jumbie bean,
                        ipil-ipil               	Mexico
Macroptilium atropurpureum	siratro, purple bean, 
                             conchito	               tropical Americas
Macrotyloma geocarpum	geocarpa groundnut, 
                        Kersting's groundnut	       West Africa
Macrotyloma uniflorum	horsegram	               Old world tropics
Pachyrhizus ahipa	yam bean	               ?
Pachyrhizus erosus	jicama, yam bean               central America
Pachyrhizus tuberosus	ajipo, yam bean	?
Phaseolus acutifolius var. latifolius	tepary bean   southern N America
Phaseolus coccineus	scarlet runner bean	      Central America
Phaseolus lunatus	lima bean, butter bean, Burma 
                        bean, duffin, Rangoon bean	tropical S America
Phaseolus vulgaris	garden bean, green bean, 
                        kidney bean, haricot bean, 
                        frijoles, navy bean, 
                        pinto bean, canellini bean, etc.  tropical America
Pisum sativum	       pea, garden pea, field pea	Mediterranean to Iran
Pisum sativum var arvense	dun pea, grey pea, 
                       mutter pea, partridge pea, 
                       peluskins	               Mediterranean to Iran
Pisum sativum var. macrocarpon	sugar pea. mangetout   Mediterranean
Pithecellobium dulce   Manila tamarind, 
                       Madras thorn, guaymochil	       central America
Pithecellobium unguis-cati	Black Jessie	Florida to northern S America
Psophocarpus tetragonolobus	winged pea, winged bean, 
                      Goa bean, asparagus pea, 
                      princes pea, dambala	       tropical Asia
Psoralea bituminosa	Arabian scurfpea	
Psoralea esculenta	prairie turnip, prairie potato  N. America	
Senna occidentalis	coffee senna, negro coffee	subtropical America
Sphenostylis stenocarpa	African yam bean         	Africa
Tamarindus indica	tamarind	                tropical Africa?
Trigonella foenum-graecum  fenugreek	                S Europe, W Asia
Vicia faba	        broad bean, horsebean, fava bean, 
                        windsor bean	                        S. Europe? Central Asia?
Vicia narbonensis	Narbonne vetch	
                        possible ancestor of V. faba	S. Europe
Vigna aconitifolia	mat bean, moth bean	        S. Asia
Vigna angularis	        adzuki bean	                Asia
Vigna mungo	        black gram, urd	                tropical Asia
Vigna radiata var radiata	mung bean, green gram	
                                                       Indonesia?  Seedlings 
                                                are commercial "bean sprouts"
Vigna subterranea	Bambarra groundnut, 
                        groundbean	              W. Africa
Vigna umbellata	        rice bean	              S. Asia
Vigna unguiculata ssp. cylindrica	catjang	       ?
Vigna unguiculata ssp. sesquipedalis	
                       yard-long bean, asparagus bean	
Vigna unguiculata ssp. unguiculata	
                       yawa, southern pea, cowpea, 
                       black-eyed pea, crowder pea   Old World
Vigna vexillata	       zombi pea	             tropical old world


Additions welcome!

Kay Klier  Biology Dept  UNI     in%"klier@iscsvax.uni.edu"


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From: klier@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Revised bulb catalog list
Message-ID: <1993Jul19.125838.14911@iscsvax.uni.edu>
Date: 19 Jul 93 12:58:38 -0600
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            BULB CATALOGS FOR NORTH AMERICAN GROWERS

                   revision of 19 July, 1993

       "One makes a mental note, or even a written note,
       and then the season changes and one forgets what
       one meant at the time.  One has written 'Plant
       something yellow near the yellow tulips' or "Plant
       something tall behind the lupins," and then autumn
       comes and plants have died down, and one scratches
       one's head trying to remember what on earth one
       meant by that."
       --- Vita Sackville-West

BULBS:  Included in this list are purveyors of bulbs, corms and
tubers, excluding Dahlia and Iris specialists.  Among the most
immediately rewarding, these "sure-fire flowers" are ordered in
late summer or early fall for spring bloom, in early spring for
summer and fall bloom.  There are often significant discounts for
ordering by mid-August for fall delivery.

If you have someone with an absolutely brown thumb, give them a
bulb of _Colchicum autumnale_, a fall-flowering species that will
bloom sitting on a bookshelf, producing a number of lavender-pink
trumpet flowers from a naked bulb.  Planted outdoors after bloom,
it will produce flowers autumn after autumn.

Another welcome gift from a gardener to almost any poor soul in
the [in]temperate zone winter is a pot of bulbs for forcing.
Most catalogs list cultivars especially suitable for forcing.

ABBREVIATIONS:
   Cat -- catalog
   cv -- cultivar (=variety)
   ? -- item of which I am unsure.
   "refundable" means catalog price is at least partially
      credited to first order (may be a minimum order for such
      credit)

CONSERVATION NOTE
      Dutch bulb growers/importers have agreed to label all
   *wild-collected* bulbs, corms and tubers by 1993 (most will do
   it this year).  US growers have NOT agreed to do this, and in
   1991 imported more than a million bulbs and corms (mostly
   snowdrops and cyclamens) stripped from their native habitat in
   Turkey.
      US growers also sell wild-collected native plants (esp.
   pink ladyslipper orchid, _Cypripedium acaule_, and many native
   ferns).  In general, if there is a cultivar name ('President
   Kennedy' tulip or 'Blue Pearl' hyacinth), you can assume these
   are grown in cultivation.  Those who enjoy growing
   "unimproved" species have to trust the source if they care
   about population destruction.  Some unscrupulous "growers"
   strip wild populations, park them in beds over the winter and
   then sell these "cultivated" plants in the spring.   CAVEAT
   EMPTOR.


_Herbertia_ is an international bulb journal on bulb
   identification and culture.  PO Bos 5355 Pasadena, CA 91107-
   0355

Should you decide to plant several hundred bulbs, you may wish to
   invest in a long-handled bulb planter (also useful for
   perennials), or an auger bit for an electric drill.   One such
   auger is the Daffodrill, PO Box 248, Salt Point, NY 127578

Bob Batson and Jim Bishop contributed most of the addresses and
   remarks; others from Kay Klier.

Compilers of this list make no warranties about the firms listed
   herein.

       ***** Please send all new addresses, changes, *****
        ****** remarks and corrections to Kay Klier *****
            ***** (in%"klier@iscsvax.uni.edu") *****

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                         CANADIAN FIRMS
       <all Canadian firms listed below will ship to US.>

CA Cruickshank,Inc
     1015 Mount Pleasant Road
     Toronto, Ontario
     Canada M4P 2M1
         Cat $2
     One of the largest lists in N Am.  Strongest in tulips,
     scilla, iris, crocus, hyacinth, narcissus; fall catalog
     features much stuff from Van Tubergen of Holland (nice
     stuff!)

Gardenimport,Inc
     PO Box 760
     Thornhill, Ontario,
     Canada L3T 4A5
         Cat $4
     English perennials, lilacs, bulbs, seeds; N. Am. agents of
     Suttons Seeds of Great Britain; some European cvs

WH Perron
     515 Labelle Boulevard
     Chomeday laval
     Quebec H7V 2T3
     Canada
         Cat $?


                            US FIRMS

Bakker of Holland
     US Reservation Center
     Louisiana, MO 63353-0050
         Cat $0?
     Dutch bulbs

The Banana Tree
     715 Northampton St
     Easton, PA 18042
         Cat $3
     tropical bulbs and seeds

B & D Lilies
     330 P Street
     Port Townsend, WA 98368
         Cat $?
     Lily specialist?

BioQuest International
     PO Box 5752
     Santa Barbara, CA 93108.
     (805) 969-4072 (Dr. Richard Doutt);
         Cat $2
     South African bulbs especially.
     bulbs native to South Africa

Bluebell Lilies
     1432 Manor Lane
     Blue Bell, PA 19422
         Cat $?
     Lily specialist

Bonnie Brae Gardens
     1105 SE Christensen Road
     Corbett, OR 97019
         Cat $0
     daffodil specialist

Breck's
     6523 N Galena Rd
     Peoria, IL 61632
         Cat $0
     basic range of species

W. Atlee Burpee & Co.
     300 Park Ave
     Warminster, PA 18974
         Cat $0
     good general catalog for beginners; one of the oldest and
     best known US seed companies

Caladium World
     PO Drawer 629
     Sebring, FL 33871
         Cat $0
     caladium specialist
Cascade Daffodils
     1790 Richard Circle
     St Paul, MN 55118
         Cat $1
     daffodil specialist

Daffodil Mart
     The Heaths
     Rt 3, Box 794
     Gloucester, VA 23061
         Cat $1; Van Tubergen of Holland wholesale cat $5
     Hundreds of daffodil cvs; minimum order from Van Tubergen
     catalog is 100 bullbs, but VT is said to have one of the
     broadest lists of Dutch grown bulbs.

Peter De Jager Bulb Co.
     PO Box 2010
     South Hamilton, MA 01982
         Cat $?

Dutch Gardens,Inc
     PO Box 200
     Adelphia, NJ 07710
     908 780-2713; fax 908 708-7720
         Cat $0
     Good selection of basic Holland bulbs; good prices, esp in
     quantity (group order program esp.).  Excellent color
     catalog with pictures of all cvs.

Fairyland Begonia and Lily Garden
     1100 Griffith Road
     McKinleyville, CA 95521
         Cat $0.50, refundable
     hybrid oriental and asiatic lilies

Gaybird Nurseries
     PO Box 42
     Wawanesa, Manitoba
     Canada R0K 2GO
         Cat $?
     Lily specialist

Gladside Gardens
     61 Main St
     Northfield, MA 01360. List $1
     gladiolas, dahlias, cannas, unusual bulbs

Holland Bulb Farms
     PO Box 127
     Westwood, NJ 07676
         Cat $0
     Dutch bulb importer

Kelly's Plant World
     10266 E Princeton
     Sanger, CA 93657.
         Price list $1, refundable
     cannas and other summer bulbs

Kent Lilies
     2009 Edgewood Rd NE
     Grand Rapids, MI 49505
         Cat $?
     lily specialist

Kester's Wild Game Food Nurseries
     PO Box 516
     Omro, WI 54963
         Cat $2
     Specialist in species favored for food and cover by game
     animals

Louisiana Nursery
     Route 7, Box 43
     Opelousas, LA 70570
         Cat $3 (daylilies, LA irises); $5 (magnolias, trees,
     shrubs, vines); $3 (crinums & bulbs); refundable

McClure & Zimmerman
     108 W Winnebago
     PO Box 368
     Friesland, WI 53935
         Cat $0
     Excellent list of bulbs, esp. species and uncommon
     cultivars; also
     uncommon species.

McFayden Seed Co.
     30 9th St, Box 1800
     Brandon, MB
     Canada R7A 6N4
         Cat $?

Messelaar Bulb Co.
     PO Box 269
     Ipswich, MA 01938
         Cat $0
     good cvs of commonly available species

Michigan Bulb Co.
     1950 Waldorf NW; Grand Rapids, MI 49550
         Cat $0
     Quoth a rec.gardener: "Everybody buys from here ONCE".
     Cheap prices, cheap plants.  Caveat emptor.

Mileager's Gardens
     4838 Douglas Avenue
     Racine, WI 53402-2498
     800 669-9956
         Cat $?

Grant Mitsch Novelty Daffodils
     PO Box 218
     Hubbard, OR 97032
         Cat $3 refundable
     daffodil specialist/breeder; many cvs available here only

Oakwood Daffodils
     2330 W Bertrand Rd
     Niles, MI 49120
         Cat $?

Pinetree Garden Seeds
     RR 1, Box 397
     New Gloucester, ME 04260
         Cat $0
     Good seeds (many op) in small packets at very reasonable
     prices; small selection of bulbs (many row-run or smallish);
     pretty good book and tool
     selection.

Pleasant Valley Glads
     PO Box 494
     Agawam, MA 01001
         Cat $0
     gladiolus, dahlia specialist

Quality Dutch Bulbs
     PO Box 225
     Hillsdale, NJ 07642
         Cat $?

Rex Bulb Farms
     PO Box 774 2568 Washington St
     Port Townsend, WA 98368
         Cat $1
     200+ cv hybrid and species lilies

Royal Gardens
     Box 588
     Farmingdale, NJ 07727
         Cat $0
     Nicely illustrated catalog of common species

John Scheepers,Inc
     PO Box 700
     Bantam, CT 06750
     203 567-0838
         Cat $0
     Nice range of bulbs; probably of more interest to
     specialists.  Well-established firm with exhibition size
     bulbs

Smith and Hawken Bulb Book
     25 Corte Madera
     Mill Valley, CA 94941
     415 383-2000
         Cat $0
     Ask for "Wilma Kay" for advice.  No seeds, but bulbs, good
     tools, garden furbelows.  Mostly expensive stuff for trendy
     gardeners, but they do have sturdy English tools.

Strahm's Lilies
     PO Box 226
     Harbor, OR 97415
         Cat $0.50
     Oriental lily specialist

Trinidad Bay Bulb Co. (1992): PO Box 974
     Trinidad, CA 95570
         Cat $?
     Lily specialist

TyTy Plantation
     Box 159
     TyTy, GA 31795
         Cat $0
     Cannas, crinums and other bulbs esp. for S US gardens

Van Bourgondien & Sons Inc
     PO Box A245 Farmingdale Rd
     Babylon, NY 11702
         Cat $0
     Mixed reports on quality

Mary Mattison Van Schalk
     Box 181
     Cavendish, VT 05142
         Cat $1
     established importer of Dutch bulbs

Van Tubergen of Holland
     See CA Cruickshank and Daffodil Mart for
     N Am distributors.

Veldheer Tulip Gardens
     12755 Quincy St
     Holland, MI 49424
         Cat $?

Mary Walker Bulb Co.
     Box 256
     Omega, GA 31775
         Cat $?
     specialist in southern US adapted bulbs

Wayside Gardens Co.
     1 Garden Lane
     Hodges, SC 29695
         Cat $0
     Pricy, but interesting and well illustrated color catalogs.

White Flower Farm
     Rt 63
     Litchfield, CT 06759-0050
     800 888-7756
         Cat $0
     Informative catalogs you may wish to keep for reference.
     Carries several strains of long-lived tulips (their
     "perennial tulips")

Kay Klier   in%"klier@iscsvax.uni.edu"