> Ken,
>
> Thank you for answering my initial question so well. However, you
> answered what I asked, not what I meant to ask. So please forgive me
> and
> let me rephrase my question.
>
I'm a programmer, so you get what you ask, not what you meant ("specify
parameters" as the Enterprises's conmputer would say). The reason some
translations insert this is that the phrase in Greek begins with
KAQARIZWN?ZON/ZEI/etc. and whether the origial reading was a finite
verb or a participle (which I think is correct), the statement would
seem a little rough in English: KAQARIZWN PANTA TA BRWMA...lit., reads
"cleansing all foods," or with the finite verb "he cleanses all foods."
I'll note in passing that mark's preference for the historical present
makes KAQARIZEI fit Mark's style well, and probably for that reason, the
participle is the harder, and probably original reading, but I suppose
it makes little difference really in meaning). Therefore, you may see
why translators would insert what they think Mark is saying, that Jesus
declared all foods to be clean, since Jesus has just orally nullified
the oral and sritten rules about food. You could also take it in a more
physical sense, anmely Jesus made all foods clean (similar to the issue
of what DIKAIOW means in Romans, does God declare believers righteous or
make them righteous, but that's another discussion and Greek grammar
won't solve it) .
Ken Litwak
Graduate Theological Union
Berserkely, CA
> I will agree that the phrase KAQARIZWN PANTA TA BRWMATA (making clean
> all foods) is in the MSS. However, why do translators insert the
> phrase
> "Thus he declared" [NASB, NWT] or "In saying this, Jesus declared ..."
>
> [NIV] since this is not in the text? I am sure that translators have
> their reasons. Does anyone know what those reasons are, as opposed to
> just leaving it "cleansing all food?"
>
> NASB --
> 18 And He said to them, ÇAre you so lacking in understanding also? Do
> you not understand that whatever goes into the man from outside cannot
>
> defile him,
> 19 because it does not go into his heart, but into his stomach, and
> [7]is eliminated?È (Thus He declared *all foods *clean.)
>
> NIV --
> 18 "Are you so dull?" he asked. "Don't you see that nothing that
> enters
> a man from the outside can make him `unclean'?
> 19 For it doesn't go into his heart but into his stomach, and then out
>
> of his body." (In saying
> this, Jesus declared all foods "clean.")
> Thank you.
>
> Mike Hawkins