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b-greek-digest Friday, 23 December 1994 Volume 01 : Number 522
In this issue:
Scholar??? In what?
Subject: Virgin
Re: son of man
Dissertation
Re: Dissertation
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From: ROBERT MONDORE <MONDORER@a1.cs.hscsyr.edu>
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 1994 06:58:00 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Scholar??? In what?
Thanks Alan for your most kind post in response
to my query concerning the 19th century "scholar"
from whom you quoted.
>>> Mind you, I only posted it because I thought that, since there has
been such a lengthy discussion on the reading and meaning of this verse
(John 1:1), certain ones might find it `interesting' to consider.
Sorry if it offended you in any way.<<<
No offense was ever taken. The point I wanted to flesh out, was
probably the same one most subscribers noticed on this list:
That it was clearly self-evident that the person being quoted
simply knew no Greek whatsoever.
Thanks again for your kind response.
Bob P.S.--->
Nobody is just a "scholar." Everybody who is a scholar must be
a scholar in something. He was called a scholar, but it was not
stated in what he was a scholar in. The post, having been posted
to a biblical Greek list, could have been misconstrued as having
a Greek scholar as its referent. Shalom.
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From: DDDJ@aol.com
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 1994 12:57:11 -0500
Subject: Subject: Virgin
I feel the reason for the ambiguity is that this prophect refers to both
Hezekiah and Jesus. There are parts that refer to both, and parts that only
refer to one.
Dennis
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From: "Gregory Jordan (ENG)" <jordan@chuma.cas.usf.edu>
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 1994 15:38:15 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: son of man
On Mon, 19 Dec 1994, Kenneth Litwak wrote:
> confusion in the argument. So let's try this: restating your argument
> while applying divine ONLY to a being that has the nature of or is God.
Ken,
Using a key term with two different meanings would not be a good way to
reduce confusion - better to chuck out the word "divine" and replace it
with godlike vs. God (or "deity"). It is essential to my point to keep
these two concepts distinct.
> hopelessly divergent. For example, when Jesus tells the rich young ruler
> there is no one goood but God, after the young man has called Jesus good,
> Jesus MUST be doing either one of two things: 1) denying his own goodness
> (which would be out of keeping with what else I think we can glean of his
> self-undestanding); or 2) he is telling the young man that He is God. I
> see no way around these two choices, unless of course you arbitrarily
> throw out the pericope.
I do neither. 1) I think it would be strange to assume that after someone
comes up to Jesus asking him what "good deed" to do to have eternal life,
that Jesus would answer by declaring his deity; and 2) even stranger that
the man would have no apparent reaction to the announcement. My Greek NT
does not have the man calling Jesus good, but rather asking him _ti
agathon poiEsO...?_ and Jesus asking him again, in perfect
teacher-student rhetoric, _ti me erOtais peri tou agathou? Heis estin ho
agathos_. The critical notes show controversy among readings, but I
think this text makes sense: As there is only one God, there is only one
good thing, to follow & obey God, as Jesus does (he is hardly being
humble here). The man refuses to help the poor with is wealth.
I think it would be interesting to do a study on _heis_ in the NT
(esp. John), esp. as it might be an interpretation of the Shema as not
being merely about monotheism, and God's oneness, but about how God is
"one" in an active sense: he makes people one with himself (through
love): Father one with Son, Son one with disciples, disciples one with
each other, all of creation one with God, etc. That is, it seems not
merely to be a declaring of God's number, but a statement about one of
his characteristics: love.
Greg Jordan
jordan@chuma.cas.usf.edu
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From: SWAECHTER@utmem1.utmem.edu
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 1994 16:41:50 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Dissertation
Does anyone know if there is a central repository somewhere out in the InterNet
for announcements of completed dissertations? I know--this isn't your
customary posting to b-greek, but it applies to the list more than you might
think. My dissertation is on a textlinguistic analysis of the Book of
Revelation. So, (a) anybody interested in a copy? (b) anybody know where I can
post some kind of announcement (i.e., title, table of contents, and perhaps the
abstract)? Thanks for the help.
Steve Waechter
Instructor in New Testament and Greek
Mid-America Baptist Theological Seminary
swaechter@utmem1.utmem.edu
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From: Tyler Williams <twilliam@epas.utoronto.ca>
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 1994 17:57:49 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Dissertation
You can access the UMI dissertationhe University of Toronto Gopher
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Tyler F. Williams Wycliffe College
Internet: twilliam@epas.utoronto.ca Toronto School of Theology
Voice/Fax: (416) 963-9082 University of Toronto
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On Thu, 22 Dec 1994 SWAECHTER@utmem1.utmem.edu wrote:
> Does anyone know if there is a central repository somewhere out in the InterNet
> for announcements of completed dissertations? I know--this isn't your
> customary posting to b-greek, but it applies to the list more than you might
> think. My dissertation is on a textlinguistic analysis of the Book of
> Revelation. So, (a) anybody interested in a copy? (b) anybody know where I can
> post some kind of announcement (i.e., title, table of contents, and perhaps the
> abstract)? Thanks for the help.
>
> Steve Waechter
> Instructor in New Testament and Greek
> Mid-America Baptist Theological Seminary
> swaechter@utmem1.utmem.edu
>
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