Re: John 1.5 - try again

From: Joe A. Friberg (JoeFriberg@email.msn.com)
Date: Thu Jan 13 2000 - 17:22:29 EST


Thanks for the clarification. At one point I read your post and took it in
the correct way (the way you intended), but then I read it the wrong way
when I was compiling the list of alternatives. So, I think the fault was
with my writing in haste.

Sorry!
Joe F.
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From: "Kimmo Huovila" <kimmo.huovila@helsinki.fi>
To: "Biblical Greek" <b-greek@franklin.oit.unc.edu>
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2000 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: John 1.5 - try again

> "Joe A. Friberg" wrote:
>
> > Namely, the pres./ao. contrast highlights the continuous shining of the
> > light in spite of any or all attempts of the darkness to in any way
grasp
> > it. The neg. + ao. highlights the inability/complete failure of the
> > darkness in its contest with the light. Perhaps this contrast is the
> > primary meaning to be grasped from the use of the tenses, rather than a
> > particular time frame. This contrast is usually brought out in
translation
> > however the verse is translated:
> <snip>
> > - ...darkness did not attempt to overpower the light (Kimmo Huovila)
>
> This one was an attempt to render the sense if KATALAMBANW had been in
> the imperfective aspect (present or imperfect). I realize I was quite
> ambiguous in my previous posting, sorry. I was trying to illustrate the
> constrast between the aspects. The aorist allows for attempts, but not
> successful ones, whereas an imperfective (in the negative) denies the
> process altogether.
>
> Kimmo
>
>
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