From: Charles Skallerud (karolus@wf.net)
Date: Sat Apr 08 2000 - 22:08:32 EDT
<x-charset iso-8859-1>After many unsuccessful attempts I do not look down on any effort. Still I
have to say that 'guest delegate' sounds like a UNESCO position or
something. I know what you mean and others in this discussion know what you
mean, but I am afraid it doesn't fly. I wish I could offer an alternative.
We are stuck with 'apostle' which, of course, is not a translation at all.
Maybe this original transliteration is a clue that nobody else was about to
do any better. After all it might be just like 'baptism.' What can we
offer as an alternative? Dipping? Your grasp of the original is useful but
I fear your audience is restricted to Greek fanatics.
Charles Skallerud
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steven Craig Miller" <scmiller@www.plantnet.com>
To: "Biblical Greek" <b-greek@franklin.oit.unc.edu>
Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2000 11:48 AM
Subject: Re: Rom 1:1 KLHTOS APOSTOLOS
> To: the participants of the Biblical-Greek list,
>
> Here is another attempt to make sense of KLHTOS APOSTOLOS (Rm 1:1).
>
> The Greek KLHTOS has been translated as "called to be"; so that Paul was
> "called to be an apostle"; and that the Romans were "called to belong to
> Jesus Christ" as well as "called to be saints." But in the LXX the term
> KLHTOS often means "guest" at Jud 14:11; 2 Kings 15:11; 3 Kings 1:41; Zeph
> 1:17; and 3 Macc 5:14. So I wonder if KLHTOS APOSTOLOS might mean "guest
> apostle." Another idea is that KLHTOS APOSTOLOS might mean "invited
> apostle" Compare Mt 22:14 "many are invited, but few are chosen" (or how
> about "many are guests, but few are chosen"?).
>
> As for finding a translation for APOSTOLOS, how about "delegate" (per
> BAGD)? And for APOSTOLH (such as in Romans 1:5) how about "commission"?
>
> << [1] Paul, a slave of Christ Jesus, a guest delegate ... [6] among whom
> you too are Jesus Christ's guests, [7] to those being in Rome, God's
> beloved and sacred guests: ... >> (Romans 1:1a,6-7a).
>
> One nice thing about this is that "a guest delegate" is a much smother
> reading than the translation "a called one, an apostle."
>
> What do you think?
>
> -Steven Craig Miller
> Alton, Illinois (USA)
> scmiller@www.plantnet.com
>
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